17:00:20 From agnes borinsky : wait is this a childhood bedroom? 17:00:28 From SARA LYONS : oh yeah 17:00:41 From SARA LYONS : and my color palate hasn’’t changed 17:00:55 From agnes borinsky : nope 17:02:41 From agnes borinsky : welcome all 17:02:45 From agnes borinsky : we’ll start in a few mins 17:02:56 From sara lyons she/they : so cute watching your faces appear to this music 17:03:04 From agnes borinsky : in the meantime! If this is your first time joining us, please follow this link -- just to be official about acknowledging that we're recording this for archival purposes. Thank you!! https://forms.gle/jFZCPgxJx8Jbtaty6 17:03:27 From sara lyons she/they : a timed entrance with sound design is something i really miss 17:03:45 From agnes borinsky : those were the days 17:04:16 From Sarah Tuft (she/her) NYC : Going b&w and imagining .. 17:05:15 From raphi soifer (he/they) : this music completely transports me to shuffling out of fenway park after an inevitable red sox loss in sometime in the early 90s 17:05:29 From Daniel Krane : @raphi, yes!!! 17:05:42 From yehudal.hyman : I feel like I’m in “Written on the Wind" 17:05:58 From yehudal.hyman : Which is not a bad thing. 17:08:00 From Elise (she | her) : Robert, Liza, and Sam 17:08:03 From sara lyons she/they : Nick 17:08:03 From Yehuda : The nameless woman who appeared at my door at 9pm last night. 17:08:03 From Lauren Miller : Skylar + her fam 17:08:04 From Sarah Sanders (she/her) : Miri, Cendri, and Jill Hutcherson 17:08:05 From declan z (they/them) : to my poor, overburdened roommate jules 17:08:05 From Eyad : Carolyn 17:08:06 From Daniel Krane : Gregg Araki 17:08:07 From walkercaplan : mia/sid/elaine/kezie 17:08:08 From Dina Vovsi : Ben. 17:08:10 From Adam Mazer : claudia 17:08:11 From Elliot Schiff : che 17:08:12 From Sarah Tuft (she/her) : Michal 17:08:13 From Carmen R. : Alphie & Cristi 17:08:13 From Hannah Wolf (she/hers) : Julia 17:08:15 From Noel Allain : Albertha Allain 17:08:15 From Lucy Jackson (she/her) : Jay and Ailsa 17:08:16 From raphi soifer (he/they) : maddy 17:08:16 From Shara Feit : my sister 17:08:17 From michellenavis : me 17:08:19 From patrick ferreri (he/him) : To Kathleen who passed on yesterday. Still feels surreal. 17:08:20 From Mishy Jacobson : My inner child 17:08:22 From Lindsay Bowman : My sisters 17:08:26 From lyndseybourne : My great aunt 17:08:29 From Jillian (she/her) : myself 17:08:35 From Liesel (she/her) : Mom, Dad, Karen, Ghassan, Zac 17:08:36 From benz : Deb’s family 17:08:38 From Natasha Lasky : barbara 17:08:40 From Maia Karo : Farah 17:08:46 From Jessica Almasy : my son Benny wants to send it up for Lauren Miller whose cat passed away recently 17:09:03 From Lauren Miller : Aw thank you Ben that is so kind <3 <3 <3 17:09:33 From Yehuda : looking for gold 17:10:43 From Dina Vovsi : Also makes me think about what-ifs, and the past 17:10:46 From Sarah Tuft (she/her) : Agree with Raphi. definitely my next line of associations was about commodifying 17:11:05 From declan z (they/them) : gambling, but with property/capital 17:11:39 From Maia Karo : Makes me think of assumptions 17:11:49 From Shara Feit : philosophical speculation (thinking of Maimonides’ grappling with it) 17:11:52 From Jordan Baum : a loud watching 17:11:56 From Sarah Sanders (she/her) : Yeah - like other as opposed to introspection (both of which feel imaginative to me) 17:12:13 From raphi soifer (he/they) : @jordan, totally 17:12:17 From raphi soifer (he/they) : maybe a performative watching? 17:12:58 From declan z (they/them) : that’s SUCH a WGNS reading of the word 17:13:07 From declan z (they/them) : in a great way 17:13:22 From Jordan Baum : raphi haha yeah !! 17:13:53 From Sarah Tuft (she/her) : What is the relationship to SPECTACLE? 17:30:48 From agnes borinsky : https://www.rustchukfarm.org/uploads/1/3/1/5/131554713/excerpt_-_rur_capek.pdf 17:41:12 From jaclyn backhaus (she/her) : plays are fun!!! 17:41:48 From Sarah Sanders (she/her) : ^^^ 17:41:56 From sara lyons she/they : they ARE 17:42:06 From declan z (they/them) : i truly forgot! 17:42:31 From Maia Karo : ^^^ yes!!! 17:44:26 From sara lyons she/they : this reminds me of the last act of rhinoceros 17:44:53 From Liesel (she/her) : @Sara yes 17:44:59 From wintermiller : I can’t wait for the musical of this. 17:45:05 From sara lyons she/they : also the end of hamlet 17:45:13 From sara lyons she/they : i guess this is the end of a lot of plays 17:45:22 From Liesel (she/her) : @wintermiller haha 17:45:29 From raphi soifer (he/they) : there is no future 17:45:33 From raphi soifer (he/they) : there is no past… 17:45:41 From sara lyons she/they : @raphi im ded 17:45:46 From Elliot Schiff : radius is the best part i’ve ever had 17:45:56 From Daniel Krane : Robots of the world, unite 17:46:19 From wintermiller : Octavia Spencer and Christopher Walked play all the roles in this play. 17:46:27 From wintermiller : *walken 17:58:43 From Yehuda : That technology will destroy us 17:59:06 From raphi soifer (he/they) : and/or that technology will redeem itself 17:59:07 From Liesel (she/her) : I learned the word resistentialism = the fear that robots/tech is/are out to get us 17:59:31 From Elise (she | her) : big Lee Edelman No Future vibes!! 17:59:46 From sara lyons she/they : ^^ 17:59:46 From wintermiller : Absolute power corrobots. 18:00:10 From Daniel Krane : Leads to mechanical failure 18:00:19 From raphi soifer (he/they) : @wintermiller, yes 18:00:25 From raphi soifer (he/they) : that must be an undiscovered bowie song 18:00:40 From Sarah Tuft (she/her) : What makes us human is our ability to love 18:00:58 From Sarah Tuft (she/her) : or at least gives us value 18:02:17 From Noel Allain : And also includes the ability to kill and destroy because of the human example. 18:04:11 From wintermiller : All this play needs is a baby yoda and it’s perfect. 18:04:19 From Liesel (she/her) : <3 18:05:03 From Lauren Miller : I felt the Helena/Primus conclusion asks: “what is consciousness? Can it be manufactured? Are we who we are, or what we do?” 18:05:08 From declan z (they/them) : oh and it all reminds me of the term “fully automated luxury communism” which is the (mistaken) idea that achieving communism means that nobody will have to work 18:05:14 From Elise (she | her) : !!!^ 18:05:38 From iPhone : Yes the fear of ourselves, but as well as a fearing what we are capable of in the future, fearing the realization/ confirmation of what humans have *already* done, to other humans, in relation to putting other humans to work etc 18:05:54 From Adam Mazer : i don’t think there’s evil in here 18:06:02 From Adam Mazer : at least not in what we read 18:06:10 From sara lyons she/they : agree, adam 18:06:17 From sara lyons she/they : only hubris 18:06:23 From Adam Mazer : yeah! 18:06:28 From Adam Mazer : and like, mistakes 18:06:33 From Adam Mazer : error 18:06:33 From Elise (she | her) : on all the robots looking the same 18:06:34 From jaclyn backhaus (she/her) : yo what 18:06:34 From Elise (she | her) : https://therumpus.net/2020/10/racism-is-a-reboot-binging-battlestar-galactica-at-the-end-of-a-world/ 18:06:36 From declan z (they/them) : WHAT 18:06:38 From Noel Allain : nnnnnooooooo! 18:06:38 From Jillian (she/her) : wow 18:06:41 From wintermiller : he also never had a heart. 18:06:51 From Elise (she | her) : (just a beautiful essay by franny choi!!) 18:06:57 From declan z (they/them) : that is the best fun fact i have learned all year 18:07:36 From Natasha Lasky : Also raises the age old question of what is gender when everyone is a robot 18:08:06 From Rona Davis : is the evil our own intelligence? Evil isn't at the forefront because we rarely consider our mere ability read as the instrument of our destruction 18:08:55 From wintermiller : RE/Production 18:08:56 From Adam Mazer : i mean, you could definitely argue that evil is an inherent human quality and in fact is key to our success as a species 18:08:57 From sara lyons she/they : yes perhaps the horror is realizing that capitalism and heteronormativity etc have made robots of us all already 18:09:11 From Adam Mazer : there’s a reason we wiped out all other hominids over the course of our history 18:09:31 From Adam Mazer : there’s a reason all very large animals go extinct within a few thousand years of humans entering a place 18:09:55 From Adam Mazer : the ruthlessness of humanity is in part the reason we’re here, having this discussion over magic wires 18:10:11 From Liesel (she/her) : @Natasha I <3 your age-old question 18:10:33 From declan z (they/them) : rod is raising his (actual real life) hand! 18:12:38 From agnes borinsky : https://www.rustchukfarm.org/uploads/1/3/1/5/131554713/excerpt_-_decolonization_is_not_a_metaphor_by_tuck_and_yang.pdf 18:13:01 From sara lyons she/they : i loooove this article 18:13:53 From Rod St Louis : thanks @declan z 18:24:55 From Rod St Louis : Glad I spoke up tonight lol 18:26:23 From sara lyons she/they : speculation as a tool for rehearsa for the rupture 18:27:48 From declan z (they/them) : with all the love and respect in my heart— i think 18:28:13 From declan z (they/them) : “peaceful revolution” is wishful thinking 18:28:59 From Rod St Louis : 🙏🙏🙏 18:29:07 From sara lyons she/they : yes agreed, that’s exactly the kind of thinking that the article is asking us to throw away—that a revolution must include or lead to comfort in order to be valid or necessary 18:29:09 From sara lyons she/they : or safe 18:30:02 From sara lyons she/they : what’s important is the revolution happens—“peaceful” is a qualifier that comes from a fear of revolution itself, perhaps 18:30:40 From Adam Mazer : well but - is it just important that the revolution happens? I think it’s important that the RIGHT revolution happens 18:30:46 From raphi soifer (he/they) : more and more, i think revolution ≠ safety 18:30:49 From Adam Mazer : lots of revolutions leave a place worse than it was 18:30:52 From Jessica Almasy : https://anchor.fm/how-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/episodes/True-Journey-Is-Return-ejcq46/a-a36g319 18:31:15 From Kate Benson : no no I”m not arguing that the valid revolution would be peaceful—I mean in my hopes, I daydream about a utopia in which we throw away property rights and all of us live in harmony. which is. you know. a daydream 18:31:17 From Sarah Sanders (she/her) : @Jessica I looove this podcast 18:31:21 From declan z (they/them) : totally totally 18:31:25 From sara lyons she/they : @raphi yes…i think safety is a construct invented by the ruling class to maintain the status quo 18:31:33 From declan z (they/them) : i was ungenerous in my reply 18:31:37 From sara lyons she/they : @kate i feel that 18:31:37 From Jessica Almasy : thats an episode about the practice of purposeful rupture. the nature of violence. 18:31:37 From Kate Benson : not at all 18:31:39 From Kate Benson : declan 18:32:01 From declan z (they/them) : <3 18:32:16 From declan z (they/them) : agh we’re already close to another end! 18:32:18 From declan z (they/them) : today was great!! 18:32:20 From declan z (they/them) : <3 to all!!!