17:00:19	 From agnes borinsky : how’s everybody doing?
17:00:38	 From Yehuda Hyman : Glad to be here with you.
17:00:49	 From Lila Rachel Becker : likewise! and sad to say goodbye.
17:00:54	 From Noel Allain : good!  Not a bad Monday.
17:00:57	 From Lila Rachel Becker : pre-melancholy
17:01:06	 From Megan Riordan : Tired but happy to make this last one!
17:01:07	 From Nina Lesiga : Was a good day thanks!
17:02:12	 From agnes borinsky : we’ll get started in 3 or 4 mins...
17:04:27	 From agnes borinsky : i love faces hiding behind shoulders
17:04:59	 From Jessica Almasy : my son said to say “my son says OK”
17:05:11	 From agnes borinsky : tell him i say “okay” back
17:05:11	 From Eli Gelb (he/him) : Lol son
17:05:20	 From Sarah Tuft (she/her) : Ok!!
17:05:38	 From Yehuda Hyman : A-OK
17:06:03	 From agnes borinsky : If this is your first time joining us, please follow this link -- just to be official about acknowledging that we're recording this for archival purposes. Thank you!!
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17:08:12	 From agnes borinsky : https://www.rustchukfarm.org/working-group.html
17:08:40	 From agnes borinsky : There's a Nishnaabeg word I learned from Leanne Betasamosake Simpson: biiskabiyang. "...the process of returning to ourselves, a reengagement with the things we have left behind, a reemergence, an unfolding from the inside out."
17:09:57	 From Paul K. Smith : rediscovering our dreams
17:12:36	 From Jordan Baum : yeah!  makes me think of flowers
17:13:02	 From Jessica Almasy : the unfolding part makes me imagine origami but like in yr personhood
17:13:11	 From Nina Lesiga : A reminder to be me
17:13:17	 From Jessica Almasy : reverse origami?
17:13:48	 From noah (he-him) : Check out flexagons for some great paper structures “unfolding from the inside out”
17:13:59	 From Kate Benson : @ Jess yes an unfolding
17:16:39	 From Eve Beglarian : very cool, Kate, the mush of transformation as a debris field…
17:16:51	 From raphi soifer (he/they) : also, “a mushbag of nothing” would be an amazing title for a nihilist cabaret (maybe in yiddish?)
17:17:06	 From noah (he-him) : At least in caterpillars, learning & experience seem to persist through the mush-stages into the butterfly-psyche
17:17:27	 From Kate Benson : yes right does the butterfly remember being a caterpillar
17:18:34	 From noah (he-him) : There have been studies (digging into my vague podcast recall… radiolab maybe?) that show some but not all memory (at least as we perceive it through science) remains in the transformed state
17:21:31	 From Elliot Schiff : i guess my wifi is spotty. the idea of unfurling from the inside out makes me think of art as an act of generosity, a kind of generous introspection
17:21:49	 From Elliot Schiff : mining the self to relate/connect to others but also oneself
17:22:47	 From Mishy Jacobson : ^^^Re:butterfly/caterpillar chat — “The butterfly is the flower set free”
17:23:58	 From Jessica Goldschmidt : ohhhh such a nice way to talk about william james
17:24:46	 From Jordan Baum : Things that are possible are actually not possible because they’re already possible.
17:24:51	 From Jordan Baum : But things that are impossible are still possible.
17:24:57	 From Michael Leibenluft (he/him) : “You don’t know if you don’t try”
17:25:19	 From Jessica Goldschmidt : @Jordan thank you I love that
17:25:30	 From Lila Rachel Becker : what’s that line about art not being real but being true?
17:25:41	 From Daniel Krane (he/they) : Art is the lie that tells the truth?
17:25:46	 From Lila Rachel Becker : yes!! thank you
17:28:37	 From Philip Gates (they/them) : noah — hearing something is impossible (ideally) prompts exciting creative solutions that have the potential to dig even deeper than the original ask!
17:29:05	 From noah (he-him) : We always hope it will! Sometimes hard to remember three previews before press though.
17:29:17	 From sara lyons she/they : sometimes it also prompts hissy fits
17:29:27	 From Philip Gates (they/them) : ((((ideally))))
17:29:31	 From sara lyons she/they : :P
17:31:57	 From raphi soifer (he/they) : “i was so much older then/i’m younger than that now”
17:32:22	 From Andrew Hardigg : I love that line!
17:32:30	 From noah (he-him) : @ Lila yes! I’m always fascinated by the gaps between what seems possible (easy, even) which are actually impossible, and which things seem impossible but are actually easy/fulfilling/illuminating
17:32:57	 From Lila Rachel Becker : @noah the best kind of collaboration <3
17:33:21	 From wintermiller : Abraham Lincoln could see the future: Beards.
17:33:23	 From Noel Allain (he him his) on Lenapehoking : Learning from the past doesn’t just have to be through the negative lens of “mistakes”, but instead through the positive lens of collective learning.
17:33:40	 From Jessica Goldschmidt : yes, feels like a more loving attitude, to consider the past in multiple dimensions as opposed to using it as a stick to hit everybody with
17:34:26	 From Noel Allain (he him his) on Lenapehoking : Totally.
17:34:34	 From Philip Gates (they/them) : it always could have happened differently. just because one outcome happened doesn’t mean those alternative outcomes don’t/didn’t exist, and they can persist and still be realized
17:34:45	 From Mishy Jacobson : Is the past something finite?  Does the possibility of the past live in the narratives we tell ourselves?
17:35:13	 From Megan Riordan (she/her) on Southern Paiute land in Las Vegas : There’s a quote I can’t remember the origin of that says “new information doesn’t change the past. It changes the future”
17:35:30	 From Rod St Louis : it’s the ultimate Anti cancel-culture statement.
17:35:31	 From Megan Riordan (she/her) on Southern Paiute land in Las Vegas : (i.e. new info about a past event etc.)
17:35:38	 From noah (he-him) : @ Noel - wither the aversion of repeating successes (for fear formula, franchise, staleness, laze) and attraction to the New, Untried, Experimental, Original
17:35:40	 From Daniel Krane (he/they) : Zadie Smith has a line, “The past is always tense. The future, perfect
17:35:55	 From Mishy Jacobson : ^ that’s my favorite quote!
17:36:05	 From Allyson Dwyer : love that
17:36:13	 From Sarah Tuft (she/her) : Yes, that line...
17:36:55	 From Megan Riordan (she/her) on Southern Paiute land in Las Vegas : Actually I may have gotten my quote completely backwards. I am exhausted. Disregard
17:37:14	 From Elliot Schiff : yes, and to connect it to the text we’re looking at, that tension can be animating and productive: a tension between the possibility of what could have happened and what actually happened
17:37:19	 From Jessica Almasy : backwards feels wildly appropriate
17:37:21	 From Hannah Wolf : Yes Sara L! There’s a Kirk Lynn-ism- “Who was the guy who placed second against Aristotle?”
17:37:32	 From sara lyons she/they : hah!
17:37:38	 From sara lyons she/they : Yeah.
17:37:59	 From Jordan Baum : Past I think maybe suggests a subject — or someone who the past belongs to —— so maybe without a subject the past is not gone
17:38:38	 From Jessica Almasy : i love the word unearth
17:38:54	 From jaclyn backhaus (she/her) : lost knowledges
17:39:27	 From michellenavis : I think of the ancestry thought exercise from a few weeks ago… and imagining my grandma in a way that I could relate instead of a distant dead lady I never meant- lots of possibility there. She liked musicals, too!
17:40:03	 From Eli Gelb (he/him) : yes lost knowledges
17:40:10	 From Mishy Jacobson : I keep thinking about Vonnegut’s concept of time
17:41:48	 From wintermiller : This is better than Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure!
17:41:50	 From jaclyn backhaus (she/her) : omg it’s like a series finale with flashbacks
17:41:57	 From Eve Beglarian : what a cool idea!!!
17:41:59	 From Declan Zhang : ^ LOL
17:42:03	 From Declan Zhang : it’s the recap episode
17:42:12	 From Andrew Hardigg : @Mishy “that person is only in a bad condition at that particular moment! They’re in lots of other moments too”
17:42:17	 From Andrew Hardigg : (paraphrase)
17:42:47	 From sara lyons she/they : agnes you crazy mensch
17:43:02	 From Eli Gelb (he/him) : lol @ sara
17:43:03	 From Jillian (she/her) : I love this already!
17:43:05	 From Sarah Tuft (she/her) : Working Group audio mash-up!
17:43:09	 From Eli Gelb (he/him) : excited
17:43:25	 From Elliot Schiff : working group auto tune remix
17:43:31	 From raphi soifer (he/they) : totally
17:43:42	 From wintermiller : What’s an OCTOER?
17:43:43	 From Rod St Louis : it’s the reunion episode
17:43:43	 From Jessica Almasy : audio mirror.
17:43:45	 From raphi soifer (he/they) : it’s a long-form dance hit
17:48:50	 From Rod St Louis : “Express Yourself “
17:49:19	 From raphi soifer (he/they) : @ rod - don’t go for second best ;)
17:51:21	 From agnes borinsky : For those just joining, we’re listening and responding on our own, in writing, to distilled versions of where we’ve been
17:51:26	 From Rod St Louis : if reading is feeding I’m a skeleton
17:52:08	 From agnes borinsky : An exercise in seeing what we can recover from where we’ve been
17:52:14	 From agnes borinsky : @ Rod - !!!
17:53:42	 From sara lyons she/they : is this ep gonna be available on bandcamp
17:53:59	 From sara lyons she/they : only sort of kidding
17:54:06	 From Eli Gelb (he/him) : Agnes you’re muted
17:54:22	 From agnes borinsky : i’m just gonna stay quiet :)
17:54:34	 From Eli Gelb (he/him) : Gotcha gotcha
17:54:39	 From Eli Gelb (he/him) : :)
17:56:22	 From wintermiller : I love everything about the way she reads.
17:57:01	 From Jessica Almasy : Ben immediately sat up and said where is this voice coming from.
17:58:31	 From agnes borinsky : November 10
18:01:50	 From wintermiller : @jessica: what does Ben do when he hears your voice coming from the computer:
18:02:11	 From wintermiller : Where is this mom coming from:
18:02:55	 From agnes borinsky : November 16
18:06:25	 From agnes borinsky : November 23
18:06:58	 From wintermiller : THIS IS AMAZING.
18:07:08	 From jaclyn backhaus (she/her) : omg i wasn’t here for this meetup- - I MISSED OUT
18:07:10	 From wintermiller : a one way tube!
18:07:51	 From jaclyn backhaus (she/her) : no way that’s a dope sentence
18:07:54	 From Adam Mazer : (update: it is not a one-way tube)
18:09:28	 From Liesel (she/her) : But the one-way tube led to a GOAT comment by Sara I believe: that only resentment goes back up the other way
18:09:48	 From jaclyn backhaus (she/her) : omg
18:09:51	 From Adam Mazer : oh  yeah
18:09:57	 From Eve Beglarian : amazing
18:09:59	 From Adam Mazer : GOAT comment for sure
18:10:01	 From sara lyons she/they : I’m so flattered that was remembered haha
18:10:03	 From Declan Zhang : we hit gold during this one
18:10:07	 From Liesel (she/her) : legendary
18:10:40	 From sara lyons she/they : truth in comedy baby
18:11:17	 From Jessica Goldschmidt : slyons you were very on point in this session, if i recall
18:11:33	 From declan z (they/them) : slyonssssssss
18:11:42	 From sara lyons she/they : what is happening
18:12:02	 From sara lyons she/they : my ego is blushing
18:12:54	 From raphi soifer (he/they) : slyons and the family string
18:13:14	 From Mishy Jacobson : Im so moved by all these voices
18:13:15	 From sara lyons she/they : our family band
18:13:30	 From Lila Rachel Becker : who knew this was such a pro-robot group?
18:14:20	 From Rod St Louis : robo-love
18:14:29	 From Lila Rachel Becker : probot
18:14:48	 From michellenavis : Robot proletariat
18:15:43	 From Sarah Tuft (she/her) : Thank YOU, Agnes. inquiry and poetry and yearning
18:16:54	 From agnes borinsky : The prompt:
18:17:03	 From agnes borinsky : Write a fiction of the future, using the tools of the past
18:17:12	 From agnes borinsky : Where the past is the collective pool of what we just listened to
18:17:29	 From agnes borinsky : (Thinking of Lauterbach: finding in the past not failure, but possibility.)
18:18:39	 From wintermiller : Thank you Agnes for your wonderful gloriousness, I have to sign off to go to a standing zoom. Recurring I mean, we’ll be sitting. Or, I will be. Distant hugs to all. xoWinter
18:23:54	 From Liesel (she/her) : Omg Jaclyn that was perfect
18:24:01	 From Sarah Sanders (she/her) : <3 <3 <3
18:24:40	 From Liesel (she/her) : Beautiful Noah
18:24:44	 From Jessica Almasy : you say grief like the e is silent.
18:24:48	 From jaclyn backhaus (she/her) : ^^
18:24:58	 From Sarah Tuft (she/her) : beautiful
18:25:08	 From Allyson Dwyer : <3
18:26:06	 From Sarah Sanders (she/her) : that was beautiful, mishy
18:26:55	 From Liesel (she/her) : These are all so good
18:28:07	 From Rona Davis : hands up also
18:29:52	 From sara lyons she/they : so many muting/unmuting fumbles tonight—maybe we feel so in the same space we are forgetting about zoom
18:30:51	 From Maia Karo : Yes @Sara ^^^^
18:31:21	 From Liesel (she/her) : Good lord these are wonderful
18:32:54	 From Rebecca Kahn : Amazing, Daniel
18:32:57	 From sara lyons she/they : TO KISSING
18:33:06	 From Liesel (she/her) : We will find our footing in our plants; our plants in our footing. We Will Fucking Kiss!
18:33:10	 From Mishy Jacobson : “We will fkn kiss” 2021
18:35:42	 From jaclyn backhaus (she/her) : pesto for antoniooooo
18:35:44	 From Liesel (she/her) : Pesto with and for Antonio was Joshua’s favorite food.
18:35:51	 From Sarah Tuft (she/her) : pie!!
18:35:53	 From Sarah Sanders (she/her) : perhaps the last piece of pie!!
18:36:28	 From Olivia Mole : this was such a gift agnes
18:36:31	 From declan z (they/them) : <3 <3
18:36:44	 From Liesel (she/her) : I still don’t know what this is, I just love it. Thank you for letting me join
18:36:46	 From sara lyons she/they : will really miss this
18:36:49	 From Noel Allain (he him his) on Lenapehoking : Thank YOU Agnes for making this space.
18:36:54	 From Carly B : <3
18:36:54	 From Allyson Dwyer : The best
18:36:56	 From Jessica Goldschmidt : thanks beauties
18:36:58	 From declan z (they/them) : <3 <3 <3
18:36:58	 From jaclyn backhaus (she/her) : very smart and wonderful people!!! inspiring and nurturing and expansive!! thank you agnessssss
18:36:58	 From Philip Gates (they/them) : this is the most unique and tangible zoom space i have encountered by far
18:37:01	 From Eve Beglarian : thank you so much, Agnes, and everyone!
18:37:01	 From walkercaplan : THANK YOU!!!
18:37:01	 From Mishy Jacobson : Thank you everyone for holding this space to share souls
18:37:11	 From Maia Karo : Thank you Agnes, thank you alllll
18:37:13	 From Elliot Schiff : thank you!!!!!!
18:37:14	 From declan z (they/them) : it’s overwhelming when we do this part
18:37:15	 From Rod St Louis : peace
18:37:15	 From sara lyons she/they : GOODBYE PRETTY FACES
18:37:15	 From Hannah Wolf : Thank you Agnes!
18:37:15	 From Jillian (she/her) : thank you Agnes and all
18:37:18	 From Sarah Tuft (she/her) : Thank you for the transformative experience
18:37:18	 From declan z (they/them) : love you all
18:37:20	 From Elise (she | her) : Thank you!!
18:37:20	 From Shara Feit : Thank you thank you thank you thank you
18:37:21	 From declan z (they/them) : thank you
18:37:22	 From Lauren Miller : Thx you all <3
18:37:22	 From declan z (they/them) : thank you
18:37:23	 From Daniel Krane (he/they) : Obrigado
18:37:24	 From Kate Benson : thank you thank you thank you
18:37:24	 From Adam Mazer : thank you!!